| "Mary's humility won't be tested" | Sir Anthony O'Reilly | Justice Minister Michael McDowell
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| From : | William Finnerty <wfinnerty@eircom.net> |
| Sent : | Sunday, October 3, 2004 11:19 AM |
| To : | "Minister for Justice (Michael McDowell TD)" <Michael.McDowell@oireachtas.ie> |
| CC : | "Finian McGrath TD" <Finian.McGrath@oireachtas.ie>, "Deputy Bernard J. Durkan TD" <Bernard.J.Durkan@oireachtas.ie>, "Minister Tim O'Malley (Health)" <Tim_O'Malley@Health.irlgov.ie>, "01 Eir" <wfinnerty@eircom.net>, "02 Yah" <newinngalway@yahoo.co.uk>, "03 Hot" <billyfinnerty1945@hotmail.com>, "04 Hot" <finnachta@hotmail.com>, "05 Yah" <finnachta@yahoo.co.uk>, "Ann Marie Kelly (Yahoo)" <annmariekellywoodlawn@yahoo.co.uk>, "Brendan Kelly (Yahoo Address)" <brendankellywoodlawn@yahoo.ie>, "Ciaran Hughes" <ciaran_hughes@yahoo.co.uk>, "Greene Family (Ballinasloe)" <richardmgreene@yahoo.co.uk> |
| Subject : | Problem with e-mail to Justice Minister Michael McDowell TD <<< re "Mary's humility won't be tested">>> |
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Different e-mail address being tried
for Justice Minister McDowell TD.
Original e-mail (Sent:
Sunday, October 03, 2004 11:42 AM) to Minister McDowell reproduced
below.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Mail Delivery Subsystem" <MAILER-DAEMON@cwint.vpn.gov.ie>
To: <wfinnerty@eircom.net>
Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2004 11:43 AM
Subject: Returned mail: see transcript for details
> The original message was received at Sun, 3 Oct 2004 11:43:32
+0100
> from cwext [62.77.181.66] > > ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- > <pagemaster@justice.irlgov.ie> > (reason: 501 ) +++++++++++++++
----- Original Message -----
From:
William Finnerty
To:
Gearoid Geraghty
(Lawyer, Fair Murtagh, Ballinasloe)
;
Martin Egan (Principal
Lawyer, Fair Murtagh Law Firm)
;
Law Society (Republic of
Ireland)
Cc:
Minister for Justice
(Mr. Michael McDowell) ;
tmannion@cllr.galwaycoco.ie ;
connie.nifhatharta@cllr.galwaycoco.ie ;
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jcuddy@cllr.galwaycoco.ie ;
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Padraic.McCormack T.D. ;
Noel Grealish T.D. ;
Minister Noel Treacy TD ;
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Minister
Éamon Ó Cuív T.D. ;
05 Yah ;
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Jim.Higgins (MEP) ;
Rosemary Scallon (Eircom) ;
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Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2004 11:42 AM
Subject: Fw: "Mary's humility won't be tested"
----- Original Message -----
From:
William Finnerty
Cc:
Stavros Dimas (EU Commissioner for Environment & Social Affairs)
;
Jose Manuel Barroso (President of EU Commission) ;
Woodlawn House Preservation Society ;
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Siobhan Nevin's Yahoo Group ;
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Ann Marie Kelly Discussion Group ;
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GreenNWF@yahoogroups.com ;
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New
Inn Anti-Dump Chairman (Vincent Costello) ;
Sunday World Newspaper ;
Margot Wallstrom (Vice President of EU Commission) ;
Minister Dick Roche TD (Environment & Local Government) ;
Prime Minister Bertie Ahern ;
President Mary McAleese ;
Assistant Police Commissioner (Galway area) ;
Garda
Commissioner Noel Conroy (Chief Commissioner of Police, Republic
of Ireland) ;
Environment
Protection Agency ;
An
Taisce ;
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Bord Pleanala ;
The Democracy Commission (Ireland) ;
Associated Press
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BBC NEWS ;
CNN ;
Reuters ;
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Tuam Herald ;
The Irish Times ;
TG4 (Irish
Language Station, Republic of Ireland) ;
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Business Post ;
RTE
(Irish National TV Station) ;
Keith Finnegan at Galway Bay FM (local radio) ;
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Independent Newspapers (Unison Group) ;
Irish Examiner Newspaper ;
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Emigrant Newspaper ;
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Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2004 10:08 AM
Subject:
"Mary's humility won't be tested"
Dear Sir Anthony, Although I have a strong feeling that the time I am spending on this e-mail is likely to be a complete waste of my time, you may nevertheless wish to take account of the information in the "Guardian of the Constitution" e-mail at http://www.finnachta.com/Hotmail15Sept2004/OireachtasMembers.htm , and then re-consider the contents of your "Mary's humility won't be tested" article in today's Sunday Independent Newspaper - which I have reproduced below. As I see it, your newspaper article
below is just one of several HIGHLY misleading
"Presidential Election" articles which have appeared in your
Republic of Ireland newspapers in recent
weeks.
I don't know about you, but I happen to
believe that democracy can only work well if the people who
vote are well informed. It is largely for this reason
that I personally find your newspaper articles of the kind
reproduced below so VERY disturbing.
Finally, I would like to point out to
you the fact that it is very clearly stated in Article
12, Section 10, of "Bunreacht na
hEireann" (the Primary Law of the Republic of Ireland)
that: "The President may be impeached for stated
misbehaviour". With this in mind,
and with thoughts of legal matters connected with public-servant
type offences such as "neglect of duty", and
"dereliction of duty", I find myself wondering how
long President Mary McAleese will be able to
hold on to her present position?
Yours sincerely,
William Finnerty.
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Mary's humility won't be tested JUST a few weeks back we argued in this very spot that not only did we not need a presidential election but that, in general, we don't actually need a President at all. We should have stuck in a sub-clause saying that if we do have to have a President we really should have an election. Not that there's anything wrong with Mary McAleese. After all,
it's hard to
be a bad President of Ireland when it comes down to it. It's just that we might have enjoyed having the illusion of choice. We also might have enjoyed seeing Mary McAleese argue why she
thought she
should be the President again. It would have been most unbecoming to see the President going around the place saying: "I think I should get to be the President for another seven years because I'm great altogether, so I am. I'm a great President, if I say so myself." This would have been incongruous because the Mary McAleese/Mary
Robinson
school of presidency is all about being humbled by everything, being humbled by the great people you meet who do great work in their communities; and being humbled by the sick and the destitute and, indeed, being humbled by the very honour of the office. It's a bit like entering a beauty contest. None of the
contestants can admit
that they want to win simply because they'd like to win. They all have to pretend they were forced into it by other people and that they aren't really worthy. The presidency in this country is a bit like forcing an aunt to
sing at a
wedding. She feigns reluctance and is 'mortified', but once you get her up on the stage there's no getting rid of her. Humbled. Although watching Mary McAleese on the Late Late the other night, 'humbled' wasn't really the word that sprung to mind. 'In her element' was the phrase that actually sprang to mind. It might have been nice, too, if someone challenged the notion
that we have
to have a law library middle-aged wan as President. For years we used the Aras as a resting home for old, retired and bewildered politicians. Then Robbo came along and there was a breath of fresh air and winds of change and a new big idea, a thrusting post-feminist woman in the Aras. So we swept away the old cliche in order to set in stone a new one. Like whales we only need a breath of fresh air very
occasionally in this
country. Ivana Bacik is already being talked about as the next President. Female? TCD? Reid professor? Come this way please. Anyway, there's no point in getting worked up about it. Mary
McAleese will
impinge very little in most of our daily lives over the next seven years. We'll notice her now and then when she wears the same coat as the mother of the bride or something. And apart from that we can just forget about her, like, well, like some retired politician rattling around in the Aras. As they nearly say across the water - the cliche is dead, long live the cliche. ++++++++++++++++++ |
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